Why are so many wealthy countries stuck?

The book 'Abundance' by Derek Thompson and Ezra Klein resonates with leaders like Dutch Prime Minister Rob Jetten and New York Mayor Zoran Mamdani. It addresses the stagnation faced by prosperous societies in terms of building and innovation. Marike discusses with US correspondent Milo van Bokkum the implementation of the book's lessons one and a half years post-release, exploring the barriers to progress and comparing approaches between the Netherlands and the US. The conversation questions whether the pursuit of 'abundance' is merely wishful thinking.